Taryn is in Mexico on a SHE RECOVERS® retreat but manages to pull herself away from the beach to call Erin Wickersham, co-host of the SHE RECOVERS® podcast. Taryn and Erin talk about the need to change and expand the language of recovery; and Erin shares how her stories of motherhood and relationships have shifted from "work/harsh" to "joy/soft."

Taryn’s interview on the Bubble Hour

Erin’s interview on the Bubble Hour

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Oprah’s interview with Charles Eisenstein, author of A More Beautiful World Our Hearts Know Is Possible.

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